Our existence is in total chaos

June 26th, 2005

Have you ever sat down and looked around you, at all the wonderful things in nature, noticing the structure and order by which everything seems to behave? It’s all an illusion. We live in total chaos. Continue reading here to find out more.

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Pawl June 27th, 2005 at 5:20 am

I disagree with your theory in certain points.
i.e. if you look again at your isolated stone where you know every variable, so you could determine the exact position where it would hit the ground. You said the Chaos comes into play when you consider the rest of the environment.
But if you make a smaller step and just consider another factor like the density of the dust and include it in your calculations, you would get the correct result, again. If you repeat this for every factor, you would always get the correct position. The Problem would just be that you just can’t consider all the factors, practically.
You mentioned that you would need the ?exact same initial values��? to get always the same result in an Experiment.
The only Chaotic (or Random) event in the Universe was the big bang. (Or whatever you think started everything)
in my opinion everything that exists today is causally seeded in this event.

But don?t ask me who set the initial Values?

P.S. sorry for my bad english. 😉

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Karel Donk June 27th, 2005 at 5:37 am

Yes, like you say if you can consider all the factors, you could determine the outcome exactly. However, like I said, this is impossible. It’s not realistic to assume that we will ever be able to consider an infinite amount of variables to infinite precision. And just because of that, you can never exactly determine anything, things can behave chaotic and random, and so order does not really exist. Conclusion: We live in chaos.

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Richard July 1st, 2005 at 4:00 pm

Karel, Albert Einstein and other physicists knew something that you don’t know and are sorely lacking in. They knew about God. You don’t and as long as you do not know about God you are missing a factor in your thinking and the lack of that factor will always set your thinking off. As Albert Einstein once said, “God does not play dice with the world.”

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Karel Donk July 1st, 2005 at 4:14 pm

You are right that I don’t know about god and am sorely lacking in that area. But consider that that may be because god does not exist in the first place. Einstein did not believe in a personal god in the way that most religions describe him. What Einstein called god was what he thought was the force behind all the order and laws in nature. And as I said in my writing, the perceived order in nature is questionable, and in my opinion is an illusion.
There’s a category called “Religion” on this site that will soon appear once I decide to post my views on that in the very near future.
But in the mean time, you are welcome to dicuss god and his existence right here with me.

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Richard July 2nd, 2005 at 1:51 pm

Karel, I’m a deeply surprised. God has done so much for you and all of the world, yet you know nothing of it. Look into our Lady of Lourdes. I think you could learn a great deal about God from there.

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Karel Donk July 3rd, 2005 at 9:19 am

Richard, how do you know what god has done for me and the world? What are those things he did? Can you prove this? So far nobody has been able to do so, at least, not to my satisfaction.

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