Comments on: Canon Quality Control SUCKS, Part II – Judgement Day http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/ Software Engineer, Designer and Photographer in Suriname Sun, 20 May 2012 10:16:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Alwyn http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-9922 Alwyn Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:28:48 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-9922 I can't understand the brand loyal fanboys from both Canon and Nikon. Yes I shoot Nikon at the moment, but that doesn't make me a Nikon fanboy nor does it make me a Canon hater. I am a customer who expects a certain level of service from a manufacturer. Once I invest money in your product, it damn well better do what you claim it does or I'll send it back. My choice to go with Nikon was made for me by Canon with their arrogant attitude when I purchased a 60d and it went faulty straight out the box. Now the unit I had could just have been a dud, but the attitude when I called them was the deciding factor. (thanks Jan and Roger from Jhb head office for your appalling attitudes respectively. It made my decision an easy one). Now you Canon fanboys can say what you want, but this was MY experience thus I can say it out loud. When I chose to spend R12 000 on a Canon product I expect it to last at least two years without any major issues and when I do have issues I want the manufacturer to show a bloody interest similar to the interest they showed the day they took my money. But that seems to be the underlying problem here. Arrogance has crept in and now we are expected to accept sub standard products and service. And brand fanboys out there are not helping a bit. When a product or service is sub standard it should be highlighted, not be defended by people who care more about the brand than actual service excellence. I can’t understand the brand loyal fanboys from both Canon and Nikon. Yes I shoot Nikon at the moment, but that doesn’t make me a Nikon fanboy nor does it make me a Canon hater. I am a customer who expects a certain level of service from a manufacturer. Once I invest money in your product, it damn well better do what you claim it does or I’ll send it back. My choice to go with Nikon was made for me by Canon with their arrogant attitude when I purchased a 60d and it went faulty straight out the box. Now the unit I had could just have been a dud, but the attitude when I called them was the deciding factor. (thanks Jan and Roger from Jhb head office for your appalling attitudes respectively. It made my decision an easy one). Now you Canon fanboys can say what you want, but this was MY experience thus I can say it out loud. When I chose to spend R12 000 on a Canon product I expect it to last at least two years without any major issues and when I do have issues I want the manufacturer to show a bloody interest similar to the interest they showed the day they took my money. But that seems to be the underlying problem here. Arrogance has crept in and now we are expected to accept sub standard products and service. And brand fanboys out there are not helping a bit. When a product or service is sub standard it should be highlighted, not be defended by people who care more about the brand than actual service excellence.

]]> By: Karel Donk's Blog » Thoughts on the Canon EOS 1DX http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-9315 Karel Donk's Blog » Thoughts on the Canon EOS 1DX Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:12:46 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-9315 [...] the last 4 years I’ve been bashing Canon here on my blog for their poor quality control, poor product releases (50D, 5D Mark II, 7D, 60D) and questionable business practices (5D Mark II, [...] [...] the last 4 years I’ve been bashing Canon here on my blog for their poor quality control, poor product releases (50D, 5D Mark II, 7D, 60D) and questionable business practices (5D Mark II, [...]

]]> By: teut http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-4202 teut Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:09:09 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-4202 I bought a canon battery grip (BG-E6) for my canon 5d mark II and noticed after a few weeks that the plastic gear inside the grip broke, yes, canon installs a plastic gear which drives a metal gear, needless to say after x amount of tightening and loosening the plastic gear strips. I Send it back under warranty and was told it will be returned fixed or replaced within 7 days. ...Nothing for three weeks… i called and was told they did not have a grip in stock and that i would receive my item before friday that week ...Nothing… Called the following week and was told the phone lines are down in all of California "Andrew" from the canon factory service center in irvine, ca. called me later that day and said that a replacement grip was never ordered ! he than patronizingly told me that i don't have to pay anything as if that should make me feel good now. (May i remind you that this was a warrant claim) (There is always a certain arrogance and incompetence about these people.) I asked him to keep the defective grip and send me a check for reimbursement since i did not like the fact that it had a design flaw and that i can get ripped off for much less (2 1/2 $ less) …he had to go and talk to someone i assume... after he came back he told me it is not in the canon policy to do that. (Seems like that canon does not have the decency to make good after they rip you off with an overpriced and flawlessly designed product) I like my camera but canon is doing a really bad job with its service ! I find it flat out insulting ! Seems to be a repeating pattern: Ones they have success and built a huge customer base they don't care anymore, because they know exactly that if just a few customers switch to nikon (and what makes me think nikon is going to be a better experience anyway) this is not going to hurt them so they can afford to stay ignorant and cut corners. By the way, as i am writing this it's 5 weeks now and i don't really now if i get my grip back at all, thinking about of ordering me an aftermarket grip for about $100, at least you feel less ripped off when you noticed the plastic parts inside. This is my experience with the pathetic canon factory service ( I think they not so responsive on warranty claims and it perhaps works better if the have a repair order where they make money ) I bought a canon battery grip (BG-E6) for my canon 5d mark II and noticed after a few weeks that the plastic gear inside the grip broke, yes, canon installs a plastic gear which drives a metal gear, needless to say after x amount of tightening and loosening the plastic gear strips.
I Send it back under warranty and was told it will be returned fixed or replaced within 7 days.
…Nothing for three weeks…
i called and was told they did not have a grip in stock and that i would receive my item before friday that week
…Nothing…
Called the following week and was told the phone lines are down in all of California

“Andrew” from the canon factory service center in irvine, ca. called me later that day and said that a replacement grip was never ordered !
he than patronizingly told me that i don’t have to pay anything as if that should make me feel good now.
(May i remind you that this was a warrant claim)
(There is always a certain arrogance and incompetence about these people.)

I asked him to keep the defective grip and send me a check for reimbursement since i did not like the fact that it had a design flaw and that i can get ripped off for much less (2 1/2 $ less)
…he had to go and talk to someone i assume…
after he came back he told me it is not in the canon policy to do that.
(Seems like that canon does not have the decency to make good after they rip you off with an overpriced and flawlessly designed product)

I like my camera but canon is doing a really bad job with its service ! I find it flat out insulting !

Seems to be a repeating pattern: Ones they have success and built a huge customer base they don’t care anymore, because they know exactly that if just a few customers switch to nikon (and what makes me think nikon is going to be a better experience anyway) this is not going to hurt them so they can afford to stay ignorant and cut corners.

By the way, as i am writing this it’s 5 weeks now and i don’t really now if i get my grip back at all, thinking about of ordering me an aftermarket grip for about $100, at least you feel less ripped off when you noticed the plastic parts inside.

This is my experience with the pathetic canon factory service ( I think they not so responsive on warranty claims and it perhaps works better if the have a repair order where they make money )

]]> By: KK http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-3047 KK Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:52:11 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-3047 This is my new blog. I put in a different post in case you don't want to publish it. dpreviewsucks.blogspot.com This is my new blog. I put in a different post in case you don’t want to publish it.

dpreviewsucks.blogspot.com

]]> By: KK http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-3046 KK Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:44:01 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-3046 Karel, I'm not surprised to hear that dpreview banned you for speaking the truth. I have also spoken out about Canon's horrible quality control and I was banned too. The gangs of fanboys at dpreview are allowed to attack and insult anyone who reports any problems with Canon gear, so of course many people are afraid to report problems. I have started a blog to expose some of the things going on at dpreview and Canon and at least I won't be silenced there by the fanboys at dpreview. When those fanboys don't like something that someone says about Canon they complain to dpreview and often get the person banned. Dpreview is complicit because they have a monetary interest in keeping interest high in camera gear, and especially the gear from Canon and Nikon since they're the two biggest sellers and are virtually certainly the companies that pay the most for advertising on dpreview. Dpreview wants their free loaner gear too. I'm glad you have the guts to speak up about the awful QC at Canon. The problems are way bigger than some people want to believe. How Canon even stays in business is a mystery to me. Karel, I’m not surprised to hear that dpreview banned you for speaking the truth. I have also spoken out about Canon’s horrible quality control and I was banned too. The gangs of fanboys at dpreview are allowed to attack and insult anyone who reports any problems with Canon gear, so of course many people are afraid to report problems.

I have started a blog to expose some of the things going on at dpreview and Canon and at least I won’t be silenced there by the fanboys at dpreview. When those fanboys don’t like something that someone says about Canon they complain to dpreview and often get the person banned. Dpreview is complicit because they have a monetary interest in keeping interest high in camera gear, and especially the gear from Canon and Nikon since they’re the two biggest sellers and are virtually certainly the companies that pay the most for advertising on dpreview. Dpreview wants their free loaner gear too.

I’m glad you have the guts to speak up about the awful QC at Canon. The problems are way bigger than some people want to believe. How Canon even stays in business is a mystery to me.

]]> By: Karel Donk’s Blog » Blog Archive » Canon EOS 7D Review: Noisier than 40D http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2968 Karel Donk’s Blog » Blog Archive » Canon EOS 7D Review: Noisier than 40D Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:27:14 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2968 [...] Another thing I mentioned was the following: Looking at Canon’s recent DSLR releases and all the quality control issues they’ve had, it would be wise to wait at least 4 months after general availability before you actually buy a [...] [...] Another thing I mentioned was the following: Looking at Canon’s recent DSLR releases and all the quality control issues they’ve had, it would be wise to wait at least 4 months after general availability before you actually buy a [...]

]]> By: someguy6481 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2703 someguy6481 Mon, 25 May 2009 17:36:52 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2703 Canon fanboys use certain tactics when the integrity of their equipment or their deity (Canon) is put into question. I have compiled a list of the most common apologetics and accusations: - you don't know how to use your equipment. - error 99's are a normal feature. - Nikon have errors as well, so it's normal for Canon to have them. - there is nothing wrong with the auto focusing system, it's your fault. - quality control costs money (as mentioned previously). - it's normal to recalibrate your lenses, even from a "L" range lens. - lens hood are additional accessory and should be sold separately. as we can see, circular reasoning and lying is a trait of the Canon fanboys and of Canon executive. what I find most insulting is that a once great leader in photography will sell faulty DSLR cameras in exchange for your hard earned cash. Canon are seriously taking you for a bunch of fools, wake up people, there are alternatives. Canon fanboys use certain tactics when the integrity of their equipment or their deity (Canon) is put into question. I have compiled a list of the most common apologetics and accusations:

- you don’t know how to use your equipment.

- error 99′s are a normal feature.

- Nikon have errors as well, so it’s normal for Canon to have them.

- there is nothing wrong with the auto focusing system, it’s your fault.

- quality control costs money (as mentioned previously).

- it’s normal to recalibrate your lenses, even from a “L” range lens.

- lens hood are additional accessory and should be sold separately.

as we can see, circular reasoning and lying is a trait of the Canon fanboys and of Canon executive.

what I find most insulting is that a once great leader in photography will sell faulty DSLR cameras in exchange for your hard earned cash. Canon are seriously taking you for a bunch of fools, wake up people, there are alternatives.

]]> By: Rick Pepper http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2695 Rick Pepper Mon, 18 May 2009 18:45:20 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2695 My Canon experience has been a living hell. My Rebel XTi went into "service" 5 times within 3 months for the same issue (that was present from day 1 but since I had no idea QC was in shambles, I never looked for issues until it became glaringly apparent.) The third, fourth and fifth times my L 70-200 F4 non-IS accompanied the XTi body to "service" (my 18-50 lens is a Sigma.) This combo produced consistently back-focused images. That was summer/fall 2007. It was a wearisome process, I had no idea I signed up to be Canon's field-service engineer!!! While reviewing some images in January '09 I was confronted with the fact that things had not changed at all. I contacted Canon, and they *finally* agreed to do something *different*, swap my body (for a refurb of course.) The first weekend in May I got a good opportunity to test the setup again and it was STILL back-focusing. This time they swapped the lens (for a refurb again) and this copy may be front-focusing, the jury is still out. My main gripes: Canon's own "system" (what system?) should have escalated my issue to customer service on the third pass through "service." I had to dig and dredge the 'net for a number that would get me to someone who could do something *other* than tell me "send it in to service." And even then that was the first thing I was told, after 4 passes to "service", I received no such thing. My other gripe: if this was some other electronics product bought from a brick and mortar store, they would have swapped it, for a NEW one, long ago. I worked electronics retail for almost 4 years, and if I would have put someone through what Canon put me through I would be minus a few teeth - no customer in their right mind would put up with this, yet Canon's "system" doesn't know how to do anything else, just send you through ONE MORE TIME. Wash, rinse REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT. I can't imagine relying on this gear for a living, and it's a darn expensive hobby, too expensive to just flush it all and go with Nikon. Thanks for making the truth known to the masses. RANT OFF. My Canon experience has been a living hell. My Rebel XTi went into “service” 5 times within 3 months for the same issue (that was present from day 1 but since I had no idea QC was in shambles, I never looked for issues until it became glaringly apparent.) The third, fourth and fifth times my L 70-200 F4 non-IS accompanied the XTi body to “service” (my 18-50 lens is a Sigma.) This combo produced consistently back-focused images. That was summer/fall 2007. It was a wearisome process, I had no idea I signed up to be Canon’s field-service engineer!!! While reviewing some images in January ’09 I was confronted with the fact that things had not changed at all. I contacted Canon, and they *finally* agreed to do something *different*, swap my body (for a refurb of course.) The first weekend in May I got a good opportunity to test the setup again and it was STILL back-focusing. This time they swapped the lens (for a refurb again) and this copy may be front-focusing, the jury is still out. My main gripes: Canon’s own “system” (what system?) should have escalated my issue to customer service on the third pass through “service.” I had to dig and dredge the ‘net for a number that would get me to someone who could do something *other* than tell me “send it in to service.” And even then that was the first thing I was told, after 4 passes to “service”, I received no such thing. My other gripe: if this was some other electronics product bought from a brick and mortar store, they would have swapped it, for a NEW one, long ago. I worked electronics retail for almost 4 years, and if I would have put someone through what Canon put me through I would be minus a few teeth – no customer in their right mind would put up with this, yet Canon’s “system” doesn’t know how to do anything else, just send you through ONE MORE TIME. Wash, rinse REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT.

I can’t imagine relying on this gear for a living, and it’s a darn expensive hobby, too expensive to just flush it all and go with Nikon.

Thanks for making the truth known to the masses. RANT OFF.

]]> By: Jeremy http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2480 Jeremy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:41:59 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2480 One of the screw on the bottom of my 20D just fell off recently. You can imagine the rest. One of the screw on the bottom of my 20D just fell off recently. You can imagine the rest.

]]> By: To Canon and Loeb & Loeb: Thanks for the traffic! « Fake Chuck Westfall http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2453 To Canon and Loeb & Loeb: Thanks for the traffic! « Fake Chuck Westfall Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:09:13 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2453 [...] I have to tell you, sometimes I do wonder myself if I am working for a camera manufacturing company or the mafia. Seeing as how Canon likes to approach things sometimes, I can get confused. Last year one of my superiors in Japan actually wanted to send a ninja to DPReview’s Phil Askey “for handle him,” after DPReview posted a negative review of the EOS 50D. So it is no surprise that the good people at Canon Rumours are afraid to say anything about the shut down notice. They’ve had their own issues with Canon last year. A thread on the DPReview forums, discussing Canon’s shut down notice also seems to have vanished. From my website statistics logs, I can see that the thread existed at the following URL: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=31008091. I visited that thread yesterday and today, and know for a fact that it existed. This morning the thread was already up to 4 pages before it got taken down. Another thread discussing the issue still appears to be up: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=31018366. One can only speculate about what exactly happened to the missing thread. This is the first time I’ve experienced censorship on DPreview myself, but I have heard about it in the past. [...] [...] I have to tell you, sometimes I do wonder myself if I am working for a camera manufacturing company or the mafia. Seeing as how Canon likes to approach things sometimes, I can get confused. Last year one of my superiors in Japan actually wanted to send a ninja to DPReview’s Phil Askey “for handle him,” after DPReview posted a negative review of the EOS 50D. So it is no surprise that the good people at Canon Rumours are afraid to say anything about the shut down notice. They’ve had their own issues with Canon last year. A thread on the DPReview forums, discussing Canon’s shut down notice also seems to have vanished. From my website statistics logs, I can see that the thread existed at the following URL: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=31008091. I visited that thread yesterday and today, and know for a fact that it existed. This morning the thread was already up to 4 pages before it got taken down. Another thread discussing the issue still appears to be up: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=31018366. One can only speculate about what exactly happened to the missing thread. This is the first time I’ve experienced censorship on DPreview myself, but I have heard about it in the past. [...]

]]> By: Karel Donk » Blog Archive » The-Digital-Picture.com deletes “anti-Canon” post about the EOS 5D Mark II http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2261 Karel Donk » Blog Archive » The-Digital-Picture.com deletes “anti-Canon” post about the EOS 5D Mark II Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:22:45 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2261 [...] ago from the DPReview forums because of discussing Canon quality control issues. I wrote about that here. The Digital Picture launched their forums today and as a frequent visitor, I registered and posted [...] [...] ago from the DPReview forums because of discussing Canon quality control issues. I wrote about that here. The Digital Picture launched their forums today and as a frequent visitor, I registered and posted [...]

]]> By: Karel Donk » Blog Archive » Canon EOS 5D Mark II: Barely worth it! http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2200 Karel Donk » Blog Archive » Canon EOS 5D Mark II: Barely worth it! Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:09:29 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2200 [...] the recent 1D Mark III autofocus fiasco. You would think that Canon would have learned from all the quality control issues they have had the last few years with camera bodies and lenses. But that sure didn’t [...] [...] the recent 1D Mark III autofocus fiasco. You would think that Canon would have learned from all the quality control issues they have had the last few years with camera bodies and lenses. But that sure didn’t [...]

]]> By: Karel Donk » Blog Archive » Canon has lost it http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2176 Karel Donk » Blog Archive » Canon has lost it Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:53:00 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-2176 [...] Bad quality control resulting in many defective products. (Part 1, Part 2) [...] [...] Bad quality control resulting in many defective products. (Part 1, Part 2) [...]

]]> By: Karel Donk » Archive » Canon EF 50mm f1.2 L - Defective by Design http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1886 Karel Donk » Archive » Canon EF 50mm f1.2 L - Defective by Design Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:52:38 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1886 [...] If you’re new to this, take the time to read my previous posts on Canon quality control here, here and here. It’s worth it especially if you are considering to buy Canon DSLR hardware. [...] [...] If you’re new to this, take the time to read my previous posts on Canon quality control here, here and here. It’s worth it especially if you are considering to buy Canon DSLR hardware. [...]

]]> By: Karel Donk » Archive » Canon EF 135mm F2.0 lens samples http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1881 Karel Donk » Archive » Canon EF 135mm F2.0 lens samples Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:32:52 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1881 [...] If you’re from Canon, I understand if you initially almost get a heart attack to see another post on my blog about Canon, especially since my last few posts about Canon were not very positive. Yes, there’s a lot that Canon needs to work on, and I’m quite sure that after the 1D Mark III autofocus fiasco the shit hit the fan at Canon in Japan. If you thought that was an isolated incident, think again. It appears to be part of a structural quality control problem at Canon and I’ve written about it here a few times. And after the release of the Nikon D3/300 and recently D700, I have it on good authority that the entire DSLR division at Canon was taken to their equivalent of DEFCON 1. Various Canon managers and engineers were hand delivered messages by actual ninja’s, threatening with “serious consequences” if things don’t get better in the near future. So I have to say, I’m very interested to see what Canon releases later this year. [...] [...] If you’re from Canon, I understand if you initially almost get a heart attack to see another post on my blog about Canon, especially since my last few posts about Canon were not very positive. Yes, there’s a lot that Canon needs to work on, and I’m quite sure that after the 1D Mark III autofocus fiasco the shit hit the fan at Canon in Japan. If you thought that was an isolated incident, think again. It appears to be part of a structural quality control problem at Canon and I’ve written about it here a few times. And after the release of the Nikon D3/300 and recently D700, I have it on good authority that the entire DSLR division at Canon was taken to their equivalent of DEFCON 1. Various Canon managers and engineers were hand delivered messages by actual ninja’s, threatening with “serious consequences” if things don’t get better in the near future. So I have to say, I’m very interested to see what Canon releases later this year. [...]

]]> By: Karel Donk » Archive » Nikon D700 Announced, Canon in DEEP SHIT http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1868 Karel Donk » Archive » Nikon D700 Announced, Canon in DEEP SHIT Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:52:28 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1868 [...] The price of about $3000 for Nikon’s D700 will further bring down the inflated prices for Canon camera bodies. Canon won’t be selling the 1D Mark III anymore if they don’t drop the price to below $3000. Not that it matters, because since the release of the D3 and D300, Nikon has been the better choice for camera bodies. If you have to buy a new camera now, you should just invest in a Nikon body. It won’t surprise me at all to see pros switching to Nikon, as already seems to be the case everywhere. And with all the quality control issues at Canon (part 2), they make it very easy for you to decide. [...] [...] The price of about $3000 for Nikon’s D700 will further bring down the inflated prices for Canon camera bodies. Canon won’t be selling the 1D Mark III anymore if they don’t drop the price to below $3000. Not that it matters, because since the release of the D3 and D300, Nikon has been the better choice for camera bodies. If you have to buy a new camera now, you should just invest in a Nikon body. It won’t surprise me at all to see pros switching to Nikon, as already seems to be the case everywhere. And with all the quality control issues at Canon (part 2), they make it very easy for you to decide. [...]

]]> By: Lloyd Chambers http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1822 Lloyd Chambers Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:59:29 +0000 http://blog.kareldonk.com/canon-quality-control-sucks-part-ii-judgement-day/#comment-1822 It's not as easy to be honest as you think! With the 7 Zeiss ZF Lenses in my review, not accepting the rather substantial "VIP discount" hurts, but it's a slippery slope once one goes down that path. Who wouldn't want such discounts?! I pay the lowest publicly available price (usually B&H photo) and/or I buy elsewhere and/or buy used after I return any evaluation units. You won't find objective information in the manufacturer marketing brochures (oops, I mean photo magazines might have "O" and "P" in their names). Follow the money. Yet some people think that paying $20 for stale and rehashed printed content is a better deal than real objective analysis. You do get what you pay for. It’s not as easy to be honest as you think! With the 7 Zeiss ZF Lenses in my review, not accepting the rather substantial “VIP discount” hurts, but it’s a slippery slope once one goes down that path. Who wouldn’t want such discounts?! I pay the lowest publicly available price (usually B&H photo) and/or I buy elsewhere and/or buy used after I return any evaluation units.

You won’t find objective information in the manufacturer marketing brochures (oops, I mean photo magazines might have “O” and “P” in their names). Follow the money. Yet some people think that paying $20 for stale and rehashed printed content is a better deal than real objective analysis. You do get what you pay for.

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